disk defragmenter

whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.

In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says...

whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the

free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com

wgd schrieb:

In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com

www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

http://www.diskeeper.com/profile/submit-select.aspx?a=l&PId=104
pick the business version...unless your using 32bit Vista peter
-- "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." "Roy Coorne" wrote in message

wgd schrieb: In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com
www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

then what version would be good for the 32bit version (x86) "peter" wrote in message

http://www.diskeeper.com/profile/submit-select.aspx?a=l&PId=104
pick the business version...unless your using 32bit Vista peter
-- "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." "Roy Coorne" wrote in message wgd schrieb: In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com
www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/diskeeper/vistadownload.asp
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message

then what version would be good for the 32bit version (x86) "peter" wrote in message http://www.diskeeper.com/profile/submit-select.aspx?a=l&PId=104
pick the business version...unless your using 32bit Vista peter
-- "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." "Roy Coorne" wrote in message wgd schrieb: In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com
www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

Kerry Brown schrieb:

http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/diskeeper/vistadownload.asp

THX!!
Roy

Thx for the link Kerry Brown :)
"Kerry Brown" wrote:

http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/diskeeper/vistadownload.asp
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message then what version would be good for the 32bit version (x86) "peter" wrote in message http://www.diskeeper.com/profile/submit-select.aspx?a=l&PId=104
pick the business version...unless your using 32bit Vista peter
-- "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." "Roy Coorne" wrote in message wgd schrieb: In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com
www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

thanks "Kerry Brown" wrote in message

http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/diskeeper/vistadownload.asp
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

"Steven Wabik" wrote in message then what version would be good for the 32bit version (x86) "peter" wrote in message http://www.diskeeper.com/profile/submit-select.aspx?a=l&PId=104
pick the business version...unless your using 32bit Vista peter
-- "Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." "Roy Coorne" wrote in message wgd schrieb: In article , Stevenw45@comcast.net says... whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.
I agree. MS has made the defragmenter in Vista a "black box". Use the free Diskeeper beta for Vista instead. Works better and provides a large amount of useful information including a graphical display as it defragments.
www.diskeeper.com
www.diskeeper.com leads to a free trial version, not to a beta for Vista - ?
rOy

Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper) on this version like they were on the XP version?
I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and fragmentation.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message

whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.

i have no idea if they are or not. sorry "KevinO" wrote in message

Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper) on this version like they were on the XP version?
I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and fragmentation.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.

I hope someone at MS will read this. The disk defragmenter in Vista is useless. You can't tell whether it is actually doing anything (no active graphs) and it reports back that highly fragemented disks do not need to be defragged. After two weeks of using the beta, this is the most serious problem I have found. Fortunately, I am using a dual boot with XP and have both System Mechanic and Norton System Works on the XP system.
"Steven Wabik" wrote:

i have no idea if they are or not. sorry "KevinO" wrote in message Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper) on this version like they were on the XP version?
I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and fragmentation.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.

i have a dual boot of xp and vista too. the xp defragmenter is ok but the vista one needs lots of work. you can report it as an issue if you want. there is even a page where you can send them your comments and seggestions. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/sentiments/default.mspx
for a disk defragmenter in vista use the one that you can download from this site. its called disk keeper. it works good. http://www.diskeeper.com/trialware/diskeeper/vistadownload.asp "Brian" wrote in message

I hope someone at MS will read this. The disk defragmenter in Vista is useless. You can't tell whether it is actually doing anything (no active graphs) and it reports back that highly fragemented disks do not need to be defragged. After two weeks of using the beta, this is the most serious problem I have found. Fortunately, I am using a dual boot with XP and have both System Mechanic and Norton System Works on the XP system.
"Steven Wabik" wrote:
i have no idea if they are or not. sorry "KevinO" wrote in message Does anyone know if Microsoft was in with Executive Software ( Diskkeeper) on this version like they were on the XP version?
I agree that they need to show the diagram etc to show us the status and fragmentation.
"Steven Wabik" wrote in message whats the deal with the disk defragmenter? i can tell how much of the disk it has defragmented and stuff. what the heck did microsoft do to it? the way they made it now, you can't even tell which drive its working on unless you open up the drive properties and tell it to work on that particular disk. i'm running a dualboot of xp and vista. know which drive is working on and stuff would be nice.